The Big Trail (1930) ADDED

[Brent_Reid]

Title: The Big Trail (1930)
Country: Germany
Region: B
Releasing Studio: Koch Media (Masterpieces of Cinema 03)
Case Type: Digibook
Aspect Ratio: 2.10:1
Codec: (MVC, AVC MPEG-4, VC-1, MPEG-2, HEVC): MPEG-4 AVC
For 4K HDR support: (SDR, HDR 10, HDR 10+, Dolby Vision support?)
Picture: (1080p/1080i 60/1080i 50 etc): 1080p
Soundtracks: (If a silent film, also state score composer or performer): English DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 mono
Subtitles (are they optional?): English, German; yes
Cuts: (and if you know it, precise run time) None, 121:42
Commentaries: Yes, by Richard Schickel (Fox Grandeur version)
Extras:
- The Film: Standard 35mm version (1:48:18) 1.33:1 / 1080p / English DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 mono / English, German
- "The Big Vision: The Grandeur Process" (2008, 12:19)
- "The Creation of John Wayne" (2008, 13:55)
- "Raoul Walsh: A Man in His Time" (2008, 12:37)
- "The Making of The Big Trail" (2008, 12:44)
- Photo gallery (5:09)
Notes: Includes both Koch DVDs below and 12-page booklet with essay by film critic Christoph Huber
Easter Eggs: None
Amazon ASIN (US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, or Spain): B00BEREAO0
Source:* OFDb

Title: The Big Trail (1930)
Country: Germany
Region: 2
Releasing Studio: Koch Media
Case Type: Digibook
Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1
Anamorphic?: No
PAL or NTSC?: PAL
Soundtracks: (If a silent film, also state score composer and performer): German Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono
Subtitles (are they optional?): None
Cuts: (and if you know it, precise run time): None, 74:31
Commentaries: No
Extras:
- German version theatrical trailer (3:02)
Notes: Exclusive DVD 2 in BD set above. This is Der große Treck: the German multiple-language version.
Easter Eggs: None
Amazon ASIN (US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, or Spain): None
Source:* OFDb

Title: The Big Trail (1930)
Country: Germany
Region: 2
Releasing Studio: Koch Media / DeAgostini
Case Type: Keep case
Aspect Ratio: 2.10:1
Anamorphic?: Yes
PAL or NTSC?: PAL
Soundtracks: (If a silent film, also state score composer and performer): English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono
Subtitles (are they optional?): German, yes
Cuts: (and if you know it, precise run time): None, 116:43
Commentaries: Yes, by Richard Schickel
Extras:
- Photo gallery (5:09)
Notes: Number 87 in DeAgostini's magazine/DVD series, "Die grosse John Wayne DVD-Collection". Also DVD 1 in BD set above.
Easter Eggs: None
Amazon ASIN (US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, or Spain): None
Source:* OFDb

Title: The Big Trail (1930)
Country: France
Region: B
Releasing Studio: Filmedia
Case Type: Keep case
Aspect Ratio: 2.10:1
Codec: (MVC, AVC MPEG-4, VC-1, MPEG-2, HEVC): MPEG-4 AVC
For 4K HDR support: (SDR, HDR 10, HDR 10+, Dolby Vision support?)
Picture: (1080p/1080i 60/1080i 50 etc): 1080i50
Soundtracks: (If a silent film, also state score composer or performer): English DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 mono
Subtitles (are they optional?): French, yes
Cuts: (and if you know it, precise run time) None, 116:44
Commentaries: None
Extras:
- Presentation by Patrick Brion (2007, 11:28)
- The Trail of a Giant (2007, 44:31)
- John Wayne, Director (2005, 27:17)
Notes: Extras are in SD with no subs
Easter Eggs: None
Amazon ASIN (US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, or Spain): B0064NX0S6
Source:* Cinefiniac, DVDClassik
Also in 3-BD Grands Classiques Du Western box set with "The Unforgiven" and "Bandolero!" ASIN: B008EK90TK

Title: The Big Trail (1930)
Country: France
Region: 2
Releasing Studio: Opening
Case Type: Keep case
Aspect Ratio: 2.10:1
Anamorphic?: Yes
PAL or NTSC?: PAL
Soundtracks: (If a silent film, also state score composer and performer): English Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono
Subtitles (are they optional?): French, yes
Cuts: (and if you know it, precise run time): None, 115:08
Commentaries: None
Extras:
- Presentation by Patrick Brion (2007, 11:28)
- The Trail of a Giant (2007, 44:31)
- John Wayne, Director (2005, 27:17)
Notes:
Easter Eggs: None
Amazon ASIN (US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, or Spain): B004KAKIGM
Source:* Cinefiniac, DVDClassik

The four Fox PAL DVDs are all dual-coded for regions 2 and 4.

Add the UK Fox; ASIN: B0007P8KVO.

There's also a near-identical Spanish DVD but I can't find the runtime.

Beaver link on DVD comparison needs removing and adding to BD.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

- The Film: Standard 35mm version (1:48:18) 1.33:1 / 1080p / English DTS-HD Master Audio 1.0 / English (SDH), French, Spanish
- "The Big Vision: The Grandeur Process" (2008, 12:16)
- "The Creation of John Wayne" (2008, 13:52)
- "Raoul Walsh: A Man in His Time" (2008, 12:34)
- "The Making of The Big Trail" (2008, 12:41)
- DVD 1 of US Fox 2-Disc Special Edition

Again, please use dashes for submenus only. Also, please list the specs of the DVD separately rather than how it's listed above. It looks like it's part of the submenu or part of the Blu-ray which makes things confusing at first glance.

(1:48:18)

Please use min/sec for runtimes, rather than hr/min/sec.

- "The Big Vision: The Grandeur Process" (2008, 12:19)
- "The Creation of John Wayne" (2008, 13:55)
- "Raoul Walsh: A Man in His Time" (2008, 12:37)
- "The Making of The Big Trail" (2008, 12:44)
- Photo gallery (5:09)
- 12-page booklet with essay by film critic Christoph Huber

For any non-disc extras like booklets or things in the case, please list them in the notes instead.

- Der große Treck - German multiple-language version (74:31) no subs, German Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono

Specs like aspect ratio, etc. are missing for the German version.

[Brent_Reid]

It's at all not clear how/where to list specs for multiple-disc sets (should each disc have its own template?); same goes for booklets, etc. Perhaps the original template could be amended to add some guidance?

Cut me some slack on the one timing (1:48:18) as it was obviously an oversight; there was a lot of info to compile in that post!

The German MLV DVD's AR is 1.33:1 (another oversight!) and it appears to be completely barebones.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Simple. List out each disc as its own entry.

Also, it would help if you could separate different editions rather than posting them all in a single reply.

Please make the appropriate fixes.

[Brent_Reid]

Done.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Extras:
- The Film: Standard 35mm version (1:48:18) 1.33:1 / 1080p / English DTS-HD Master Audio 1.0 / English (SDH), French, Spanish
- "The Big Vision: The Grandeur Process" (2008, 12:16)
- "The Creation of John Wayne" (2008, 13:52)
- "Raoul Walsh: A Man in His Time" (2008, 12:34)
- "The Making of The Big Trail" (2008, 12:41)

Again, please don't use dashes like this unless it is a specific submenu listing. We have to remove them when entering and it makes it much easier for us without them.
As for alternate versions of the film, you don't need to list it in the extras section, but please list it in the specs for the film itself. For example:

Aspect Ratio: 2.10:1 (70mm Fox Grandeur version) / 1.33:1 (35mm version)

Title: The Big Trail (1930)
Country: Germany
Region: B
Releasing Studio: Koch Media (Masterpieces of Cinema 03)
Case Type: Digibook

Title: The Big Trail (1930)
Country: Germany
Region: 2
Releasing Studio: Koch Media
Case Type: Keep case

The Blu-ray is in a Digibook case while the 2 DVDs are packaged in a separate keep case?

[Brent_Reid]

I just don't get what you mean in terms of extras listing methodology. I've looked at various other submissions and almost all differ from each other in some way, so there are a lot of members also getting it wrong! Can you please link to a submission that's formatted correctly, or perhaps the form itself could be amended to be clearer?

The case note was a copy/paste error, now fixed.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

The case note was a copy/paste error, now fixed.

It still says "keep case" above. I don't see any change applied, and still there are numerous dashes that are remaining.

Not sure what is unclear, but an example:

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/f ... ?fid=64208

DISC ONE (Blu-ray 4K)
* The Film
Audio Commentary by biographer Douglas L. Rathgeb

DISC TWO (Blu-ray)
* The Film
Audio Commentary by biographer Douglas L. Rathgeb
"Behind the Scenes: James Dean Remembered" documentary (66:22)
"Behind the Scenes: Rebel Without a Cause - Defiant Innocents" documentary (36:30)
"Behind the Scenes: Dennis Hopper - Memories of the Warner Lot" featurette (10:31) [1080p]
Screen Tests (6:27)
Wardrobe Tests (5:05)
5 Black and White Deleted Scenes Without Sound:
- "Kids Exit the Planetarium" (2:42)
- "Gang Outside the Planetarium" (1:12)
- "Gang Outside the Planetarium" (Alternate Angle) (2:41)
- "Plato Gets on the Bus" (3:01)
- "Kids Run Down the Ramp" (0:55)
11 Color Deleted Scenes Without Sound:
- "Kids Drive Up to School" (1:36)
- "Kids Walk Up to School" (0:57)
- "Kids Leave School" (0:31)
- "Jim Sees Judy" (0:55)
- "Kids Leave the Planetarium Auditorium" (3:04)
- "Jim Hustled Into Precinct" (0:51)
- "Gang Attacks Plato" (0:49)
- "Gang Attacks Man" (1:43)
- "Cops Arrive at the Planetarium" (0:58)
- "Parents Arrive at the Planetarium" (1:20)
- "Plato Falls from the Planetarium Dome" (Alternate Ending) (0:36)
Behinds the Cameras - Interviews
- Natalie Wood (7:57)
- Jim Backus (5:47)
- James Dean (7:44)
Theatrical Trailer (2:25)

For the extras like documentaries, the featurette, the tests, etc. they are listed without a - because they are not part of any submenu. But for the deleted scenes and the interviews, they are part of a submenu which you must click on first to access them, hence the - marks. If they are part of a submenu within a submenu, then -- should be used. So, when listing an entry we would like:

DISC ONE (Blu-ray 4K)

Title: Rebel Without a Cause
Country: USA
Region: ALL
Releasing Studio: Warner Bros.
Case Type: Keep Case
Aspect Ratio: 2.55:1
Codec: (MVC, AVC MPEG-4, VC-1, MPEG-2, HEVC) HEVC
For 4K HDR support: (SDR, HDR 10, HDR 10+, Dolby Vision support?) HDR
Picture: (1080p/1080i 60/1080i 50 etc) 2160p
Soundtracks: (If a silent film, also state score composer or performer)
English Dolby Atmos
English DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 mono
French Dolby Digital 1.0
German Dolby Digital 1.0
Italian Dolby Digital 1.0
Spanish (Castilian) Dolby Digital 1.0
Spanish (Latin) Dolby Digital 1.0
Subtitles (are they optional?):
Dutch, English HoH, French, German HoH, Italian HoH, Korean, Mandarin (Traditional), Spanish (Castilian), Spanish (Latin) (optional)
Cuts: (and if you know it, precise run time) No cuts (110:55).
Commentaries:
Audio Commentary by biographer Douglas L. Rathgeb
Extras:
Notes:
Easter Eggs:
Amazon ASIN (US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, or Spain): B0BV3BMJ3C
Source:*Owned

DISC TWO (Blu-ray)

Title: Rebel Without a Cause
Country: USA
Region: ALL
Releasing Studio: Warner Bros.
Case Type: Keep Case
Aspect Ratio: 2.55:1
Codec: (MVC, AVC MPEG-4, VC-1, MPEG-2, HEVC) AVC MPEG-4
For 4K HDR support: (SDR, HDR 10, HDR 10+, Dolby Vision support?)
Picture: (1080p/1080i 60/1080i 50 etc) 1080p
Soundtracks: (If a silent film, also state score composer or performer)
English DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
Czech Dolby Digital 1.0
French Dolby Digital 1.0
German Dolby Digital 1.0
Italian Dolby Digital 1.0
Japanese Dolby Digital 1.0
Polish Dolby Digital 1.0
Portuguese (Brazilian) Dolby Digital 1.0
Spanish (Castilian) Dolby Digital 1.0
Spanish (Latin) Dolby Digital 1.0
Subtitles (are they optional?):
Czech, Danish, English HoH, Finnish, French, German HoH, Hebrew, Italian HoH, Japanese, Korean, Mandarin (Traditional), Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese (Brazilian), Romanian, Spanish (Castilian), Spanish (Latin), Swedish, Turkish (optional)
Cuts: (and if you know it, precise run time) No cuts (110:55).
Commentaries:
Audio Commentary by biographer Douglas L. Rathgeb
Extras:
"Behind the Scenes: James Dean Remembered" documentary (66:22)
"Behind the Scenes: Rebel Without a Cause - Defiant Innocents" documentary (36:30)
"Behind the Scenes: Dennis Hopper - Memories of the Warner Lot" featurette (10:31) [1080p]
Screen Tests (6:27)
Wardrobe Tests (5:05)
5 Black and White Deleted Scenes Without Sound:
- "Kids Exit the Planetarium" (2:42)
- "Gang Outside the Planetarium" (1:12)
- "Gang Outside the Planetarium" (Alternate Angle) (2:41)
- "Plato Gets on the Bus" (3:01)
- "Kids Run Down the Ramp" (0:55)
11 Color Deleted Scenes Without Sound:
- "Kids Drive Up to School" (1:36)
- "Kids Walk Up to School" (0:57)
- "Kids Leave School" (0:31)
- "Jim Sees Judy" (0:55)
- "Kids Leave the Planetarium Auditorium" (3:04)
- "Jim Hustled Into Precinct" (0:51)
- "Gang Attacks Plato" (0:49)
- "Gang Attacks Man" (1:43)
- "Cops Arrive at the Planetarium" (0:58)
- "Parents Arrive at the Planetarium" (1:20)
- "Plato Falls from the Planetarium Dome" (Alternate Ending) (0:36)
Behinds the Cameras - Interviews
- Natalie Wood (7:57)
- Jim Backus (5:47)
- James Dean (7:44)
Theatrical Trailer (2:25)
Notes:
Easter Eggs:
Amazon ASIN (US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, or Spain): B0BV3BMJ3C
Source:*Owned

It's clear that it's a 2 disc set, with info for both discs listed separately. If you want to include other countries' discs which have completely different specs, please follow with a new reply to separate them as different editions, which makes it easier for us as well.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Title: The Big Trail (1930)
Country: France
Region: B

Commentaries: Yes, by Richard Schickel

Neither of the reviews linked state there is a commentary track.

[Brent_Reid]

I did alter the keep case notation but on the wrong German DVD! Now fixed.

The French BD commentary was just me getting them mixed up. I clearly bit off more than I could chew with such a lengthy post!

Thanks for explaining the extras thing; I understand now.

I'll split up the releases so you can add them one at a time. Here's the first:

Title: The Big Trail (1930)
Country: US
Region: A
Releasing Studio: 20th Century Fox
Case Type: Keep case
Aspect Ratio: Fox Grandeur version: 2.10:1 / Standard 35mm version: 1.33:1
Codec: (MVC, AVC MPEG-4, VC-1, MPEG-2, HEVC): MPEG-4 AVC
For 4K HDR support: (SDR, HDR 10, HDR 10+, Dolby Vision support?)
Picture: (1080p/1080i 60/1080i 50 etc): 1080p - both versions
Soundtracks: (If a silent film, also state score composer or performer): English DTS-HD Master Audio 1.0 - both versions
Subtitles (are they optional?): English (SDH), French, Spanish - both versions
Cuts: (and if you know it, precise run time) None; Fox Grandeur version (2:01:44) / Standard 35mm version (1:48:18)
Commentaries: Yes, by Richard Schickel (Fox Grandeur version)
Extras:
"The Big Vision: The Grandeur Process" (2008, 12:16)
"The Creation of John Wayne" (2008, 13:52)
"Raoul Walsh: A Man in His Time" (2008, 12:34)
"The Making of The Big Trail" (2008, 12:41)
Notes:
2-disc set; also includes disc 1 of US Fox 2-DVD Special Edition.
Also in 3-BD Own the Moments box set with "In Old Arizona" and "North to Alaska" (ASIN: B00J11U4WS), and 7-BD John Wayne Film Collection with... (ASIN: B00IYRLUEG).
Easter Eggs: None
Amazon ASIN (US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, or Spain): B0080GEV0G
Source:* Beaver

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

I was waiting for you to update the entries here, but since I had some time, I went ahead and reformatted everything (which was way too time consuming...) to get this out of the way.

[Brent_Reid]

Cheers, James; good work. The four identical Fox PAL DVDs still need to be noted as dual-coded for regions 2 and 4, and the DVD comparison Beaver link needs removing.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

The four identical Fox PAL DVDs still need to be noted as dual-coded for regions 2 and 4

They already say that.

and the DVD comparison Beaver link needs removing.

Done.