Edison: The Invention of the Movies [Kino][USA] ADDED

[Matt_Bailey]

Title: Edison: The Invention of the Movies
Country: USA
Region: All
Releasing Studio: Kino Classics
Case Type: Keep case
Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Anamorphic?: No
PAL or NTSC?: NTSC
Amazon ASIN (US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, or Spain): B0CFNJNP2G
Source: Own it

Runtimes for films include added title/information cards

Disc 1
[Monkeyshines, no. 1] (ca. 1889-1890) (0:36)
[Monkeyshines, no. 2] (ca. 1889-1890) (0:36)
[Dickson Greeting] (1891) (0:16)
[Newark Athlete (with Indian Clubs)] (1891) (0:14)
[Men Boxing] (1891) (0:21)
Blacksmithing Scene (1893) (0:43)
The Barber Shop (1893) (0:37)
Edison Kinetoscopic Record of a Sneeze, January 7, 1894 (1894) (0:12)
[Athlete with Wand] (1894) (0:33)
Sandow (1894) (0:37)
Carmencita (1894) (0:40)
Boxing Cat's (Prof. Welton's) (1894) (0:31)
Caicedo with Pole (1894) (0:40)
Annabelle Butterfly Dance (1894) (0:35)
Cockfight, no. 2 (1894) (0:34)
Corbett and Courtney Before the Kinetograph (1894) (0:54)
Sioux Ghost Dance (1894) (0:33)
Buffalo Dance (1894) (0:32)
Hadj Cheriff (1894) (0:32)
Glenroy Bros., [no. 2] (1894) (0:50)
Louis Martinetti (1894) (0:31)
Bucking Broncho (1894) (0:34)
Annie Oakley (1894) (0:34)
Imperial Japanese Dance (1894) (0:38)
Robetta and Doretto, [no. 2] (1894) (0:32)
Band Drill (1894) (0:30)
Fire Rescue Scene (1894: (0:33)
Billy Edwards and the Unknown (1895) (0:31)
Dickson Experimental Sound Film (ca. 1894-1895) (1:21)
Princess Ali (1895) (0:27)
Annabelle Serpentine Dance (1895) (0:30)
The Execution of Mary, Queen of Scots (1895) (0:28)
Amy Muller (1896) (0:30)
The John C. Rice-May Irwin Kiss (1896) (0:34)
Shooting the Chutes (1896) (0:39)
Fatima, Muscle Dancer (1896) (1:21)
Mess Call (1896) (0:51)
Inventor Edison Sketched by World Artist (1896) (1:41)
Watermelon Eating Contest (1896) (0:34)
The Lone Fisherman (1896) (0:59)
Interrupted Lovers (1896) (0:31)
Feeding the Doves (1896) (0:32)
A Morning Bath (1896) (0:38)
The Burning Stable (1896) (0:27)
Mounted Police Charge (1896) (0:34)
Going to the Fire (1896) (0:34)
A Morning Alarm (1896) (0:34)
Black Diamond Express, no. 1 (1896) (0:36)
American Falls from Above, American Side (1896) (0:32)
The First Sleigh Ride (1896) (0:34)
The Morning Alarm (1896) (1:21)
Fifth Avenue, New York (1897) (0:47)
Mr. Edison at Work in His Chemical Laboratory (1897) (0:36)
Return of Lifeboat (1897) (0:39)
Troop Ships for the Philippines (1898) (0:49)
U.S. Troops Landing at Daiquiri, Cuba (1898) (0:43)
Shooting Captured Insurgents (1898) (0:41)
The Burglar on the Roof (1898) (0:36)
Firemen Rescuing Men and Women (1899) (1:19)
A Wringing Good Joke (1899) (0:38)
[Gold Rush Scenes in the Klondike] (1899) (1:03)
Searching Ruins on Broadway for Dead Bodies, Galveston (1900) (0:59)
The Kiss (1900) (0:52)
Capture of Boer Battery by British (1900) (1:14)
New Black Diamond Express (1900) (0:44)
Watermelon Contest (1900) (2:19)
A Storm at Sea (1900) (1:21)
Old Maid Having Her Picture Taken (1901) (1:20)
Another Job for the Undertaker (1901) (1:28)
[High Diving Scene] (1901) (0:47)
Photographing a Country Couple (1901) (1:13)
What Happened on Twenty-Third Street, New York City (1901) (1:38)
Pan-American Exposition by Night (1901) (1:04)
Trapeze Disrobing Act (1901) (2:03)
The Burning of Durland's Riding Academy (1902) (3:35)
Burlesque Suicide, no. 2 (1902) (1:11)
Jack and the Beanstalk (1902) (10:24)
Interrupted Bathers (1902) (1:02)
Electrocuting an Elephant (1903) (1:35)
Life of an American Fireman (1903) (6:57)
Egyptian Fakir with Dancing Monkey (1903) (1:44)
Scrap in Black and White (1903) (1:30)
Uncle Tom's Cabin (1903) (19:16)
The Gay Shoe Clerk (1903) (1:26)
Turning the Tables (1903) (1:28)
What Happened in the Tunnel (1903) (1:21)
The Great Train Robbery (1903) (12:12)
Rector's to Claremont (1903) (4:03)



Extras: Introduction (2:06)
"About the DVD" text screens
Supplemental Interviews
- About the Museum of Modern Art Edison Collection (5:05)
- About the Library of Congress Paper Print Collection (7:40)
- About the Thomas A. Edison Papers (0:55)
- The Power of Patents (6:20)
- MoMA's Rules of Restoration (2:30)
- Philosophies of Film Preservation (1:39)
"The Kinetophone" text screens
Kinetophone simulations
- Blacksmithing Scene (0:36)
- The Barber Shop (0:30)
- [Athlete with Wand] (0:25)
- Sandow (0:31)
- Boxing Cats (Prof. Welton's) (0:24)
- Annabelle Butterfly Dance (0:28)
- Cockfight, no. 2 (0:26)
- Corbett and Courtney Before the Kinetograph (0:47)
- Sioux Ghost Dance (0:27)
- Buffalo Dance (0:25)
- Hadj Cheriff (0:24)
- Louis Martinetti (0:24)
- Bucking Broncho (0:26)
- Annie Oakley (0:26)
- Imperial Japanese Dance (0:31)
- Robetta and Doretto, [no. 2] (0:24)
- Band Drill (0:23)
- Fire Rescue Scene (0:25)
- Billy Edwards and the Unknown (0:24)
- Annabelle Serpentine Dance (0:22)
"Alphabetical Index of Films" text screen
Photo gallery
Film notes by Charles Musser (PDF)
"Program Notes" text screen (identical to the text found on the PDFs)
Origins of the Edison Company (7:13)
The Kinetograph (1:09)
Paper Prints (7:40)
Introduction to "Edison Kinetoscopic Record of a Sneeze, January 7, 1894 (0:37)
Documenting Vaudeville (2:12)
The Art of Self Promotion (1:29)
Early Boxing Films (4:24)
Introduction to Buffalo Bill Films (1:59)
Introduction to "Dickson Experimental Sound Film" (3:36)
Introduction to "Annabelle Serpentine Dance (0:54)
Introduction to "The John C. Rice-May Irwin Kiss" (3:05)
Going on Location (2:23)
Introduction to "Inventor Edison Sketched by World Artist" (1:29)
Introduction to "Black Diamond Express, no. 1" (3:25)
Introduction to "Mr. Edison at Work in His Chemical Laboratory" (1:15)
The New York Studio (1:24)
Introduction to "Jack and the Beanstalk" (2:35)
Introduction to "Life of an American Fireman" (3:26)
Introduction to "Scrap in Black and White" (1:09)
Introduction to "Uncle Tom's Cabin" (3:39)
Introduction to "The Great Train Robbery" (3:18)




Disc 2
European Rest Cure (1904) (13:27)
How a French Nobleman Got a Wife Through the New York Herald Personal Columns (1904) (7:50)
Nervy Nat Kisses the Bride (1904) (2:13)
Scarecrow Pump (1:33)
The Strenuous Life; or, Anti-Race Suicide (1904) (5:21)
The Ex-Convict (1904) (9:49)
The Kleptomaniac (1905) (11:01)
The Seven Ages (1905) (5:55)
The Whole Dam Family and the Dam Dog (1905) (5:46)
Coney Island at Night (1905) (4:14)
The Little Train Robbery (1905) (10:43)
The White Caps (1905) (12:05)
The Watermelon Patch (1905) (10:52)
The Miller's Daughter (1905) (13:20)
The Train Wreckers (1905) (11:44)
Life of an American Policeman (1905) (14:37)
Police Chasing Scorching Auto (1905) (2:52)
The Dream of a Rarebit Fiend (1906) (6:34)
Three American Beauties (1906) (1:03)
Films of the San Francisco Earthquake (1906) (2:04)
The Terrible Kids (1906) (7:00)
Kathleen Mavourneen (1906) (15:30)
Getting Evidence (1906) (14:39)
The "Teddy" Bears (1907) (13:54)


Extras: Introduction (2:06)
"Program Notes" text screen
The Edison Studio Moves to the Bronx (1:23)
Introduction to "The Ex-Convict" (1:37)
Introduction to "The Kleptomaniac" (2:33)
Introduction to "The Whole Dam Family and the Dam Dog" (0:28)
Introduction to "The Little Train Robbery" (1:46)
Introduction to "The White Caps" (3:47)
Introduction to "The Watermelon Patch" (4:03)
Introduction to "Life of an American Policeman" (1:23)
Introduction to "The Dream of a Rarebit Fiend" (3:10)
Introduction to "Three American Beauties" (2:02)
Introduction to "The 'Teddy' Bears" (1:55)




Disc 3
Cohen's Fire Sale (1907) (13:27)
The Rivals (1907) (12:44)
College Chums (1907) (11:35)
The Trainer's Daughter (1907) (13:14)
Laughing Gas (1907) (9:03)
A Little Girl Who Did Not Believe in Santa Claus (1907) (14:07)
A Suburbanite's Ingenious Alarm (1907) (7:13)
Rescued from an Eagle's Nest (1908) (7:24)
Fireside Reminiscences (1908) (8:22)
Cupid's Pranks (1908) (10:17)
Tale the Autumn Leaves Told (fragment (1908) (1:43)
The House of Cards (1909) (16:32)
New York of Today (1910) (7:46)
How Bumptious Papered the Parlor (1910) (4:30)
Thirty Days at Hard Labor (1912) (16:29)
The Passer-By (1912) (16:51)
The Totville Eye (1912) (14:54)
The Public and Private Care of Infants (1912) (14:33)
An Unsullied Shield (1912) (16:50)



Extras: Introduction (2:06)
"Program Notes" text screen
Introduction to "Cohen's Fire Sale" (1:53)
Introduction to "The Rivals" (0:50)
Introduction to "Laughing Gas" (1:40)
Introduction to "Rescued from an Eagle's Nest" (1:45)
Introduction to "Cupid's Pranks" (0:32)
The Decline of Edwin S. Porter (1:23)
Introduction to the Films of the 1910s (4:07)
Meeting of the Motion Picture Patents Company (0:48)




Disc 4
At Bear Track Gulch (1913) (14:44)
The Ambassador's Daughter (1913) (14:56)
A Serenade by Proxy (1913) (14:45)
All On Account of a Transfer (1913) (11:19)
One Touch of Nature (1914) (16:34)
The Adventure of the Hasty Elopement (1914) (15:18)
The Wonders of Magnetism (1915) (7:54)
Black Eyes (1915) (15:03)
The Lone Game (1915) (16:23)
The Unbeliever (1915) (85:01)

Extras: Introduction (2:06)
"Program Notes" text screen
Introduction to "The Unbeliever" (5:38)
The Decline of the Edison Studios (4:47)

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Louis Martinetti (1894) (0:31)

This should be Luis Martinetti

Bucking Broncho (1894) (0:34)

Bucking Bronco

The Unbeliever (1915) (85:01)

This should be from 1918

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Are all the shorts without audio? Dolby Digital 0.0?

[Matt_Bailey]

They're all Dolby Digital 2.0, I think. There's a lot of them. My computer currently plays no audio of any kind for any reason, not sure what's going on there.

Louis Martinetti (1894) (0:31)

This should be Luis Martinetti

Per IMDB, but menus and opening title card both refer to it as "Louis Martinetti".

Bucking Broncho (1894) (0:34)

Nope: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0309396/

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

They're all Dolby Digital 2.0, I think. There's a lot of them. My computer currently plays no audio of any kind for any reason, not sure what's going on there.

Are they all without music scores? Completely silent?

[Matt_Bailey]

Spot-checking them now I've fixed my computer, every one I checked had a score.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Added the set. Thank you!

[Matt_Bailey]

I can't seem to find it?

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Sorry, it was hidden away.
https://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/ ... ?fid=66288

[Matt_Bailey]

Is there a reason this and Kino's 'The Movies Begin' set don't treat the films as films? There's overlap between the sets, and it makes it impossible to find the sets by searching for the films contained therein.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Creating over 140 entries and linking each means 140 tabs being open for editing is just not feasible. In addition I needed to get that done before I went on vacation and I'm focusing on a few reviews. If someone wants to make 140 entries for each film they are welcome to, but I cannot.

[Matt_Bailey]

There would seem to be Easter Eggs on disc one: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... ount=89494

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

When you can find them, you can list them here and we will update it.

[Matt_Bailey]

Okay, they're not actually really Easter Eggs, just really well-hidden. On the Program Notes text screens, at the end of the section for each film, there are buttons. Generally, it's just a button to play the film (or the film with introduction, where films have one). However, some films have additional buttons:

Introduction
- Play interview: Origins of the Edison Company
Monkeyshines 1 and 2
- View Edison's drawing of the micro-kinetoscope, October 1888 (2 images)
- View photograph of micro-kinetoscope
- View sheets of micro-photographs (2 images)
Dickson Greeting
- View images (6 images)
1892-1893 Introduction
- Play interview: The Kinetograph
- View images of the Black Maria (5 images)
- View newspaper article (5 images)
1894-95 Introduction
- Play interview: Documenting Vaudeville
- View document: Edison's Congratulations (2 images)
Fred Ott's Sneeze
- Play Interview: Paper Prints
- View Document: Copyright Registration (3 images)
- View Photo: Composite Image
Sandow
- Play Interview: The Art of Self-Promotion
- View Document: Copyright Entry (3 images)
Carmencita
- View Document: Copyright Entry (3 images)
Annabelle Butterfly Dance
- View Photo of Annabelle
Corbett and Courtney
- Play Interview: Early Boxing Films
- Play "Hornbacker-Murphy Fight" (Edison, 1894)
- View Photographs (4 images)
Annabelle Serpentine Dance
- Play The American Mutoscope Company's "Annabelle Serpentine Dance" (June-July 1896)
Execution of Mary
- View Edison Sales Sheet (3 images)
1896-97 Introduction
- Play Interview: Going on Location
- View Press Material (6 images)
- Play International Film Company's "Dewars Scotch Whisky" (1897)
- Play International Film Company's "School is Out" (ca. 1896-1897)
John C. Rice-May Irwin Kiss
- Play "The Kiss" (1900)
- Play Excerpt of "Jack the Kisser" (Edison, Dir: Edwin S. Porter, 1907)
Shooting the Chutes
- Play "Hippodrome Races, Dreamland, Coney Island"
- Play "Electrocuting an Elephant"
Watermelon Eating Contest
- Play "Watermelon Contest" (1900)
Black Diamond Express no 1
- Play "New Black Diamond Express" (1900)
- View Photograph (2 images)
New Black Diamond Express
- Play "Black Diamond Express no 1"
Watermelon Contest
- Play "Watermelon Eating Contest"
1901-1902 Introduction
- Play Interview: The New York Studio
Life of an American Fireman
- Play "Fire Rescue Scene" (1894)
- Play "Going to the Fire" (1896)
- Play "The Morning Alarm" (1896)
- Play "Firemen Rescuing Men and Women" (1899)
- Play "The Burning of Durland's Riding Academy" (1902)
Uncle Tom's Cabin
- View Promotional Materials (2 images)
The Great Train Robbery
- View Promotional Materials (3 images)

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Not sure what to update with the above.

[Matt_Bailey]

The photos, "Annabelle Serpentine Dance (Mutoscope)", "Dewars Scotch Whisky", "School is Out", "Hippodrome Races, Dreamland, Coney Island", and "The Hornbacker-Murphy Fight" are all exclusive to that menu.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

I'm still not sure what to add and where. Please be more specific as to where the missing info needs to go.

https://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/ ... ?fid=66288

[Matt_Bailey]

I've outlined the entire menu structure, I fail to see how much more specific I can be.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

I've outlined the entire menu structure, I fail to see how much more specific I can be.

Please make it simple. Which extras are missing from which discs and where should they be? Could you make it so it's an easy copy & paste for us?

[Matt_Bailey]

If you'd listed them all as movies, then things could be added as extras to them. At the moment it's all one great lump. I'm really not sure how it would be best laid out.

That said, a few aren't extras to a specific movie, they're extras to a "program notes" page, which makes it difficult. You could perhaps add the following under "extras", with an asterisk to an explanation that they can be found within the Program Notes menu:

Disc 1
- Edison's Drawing of the Micro-Kinetoscope, October 1888 (2 images)
- Photograph of Micro-Kinetoscope (1 image)
- Sheets of Micro-Photographs (2 images)
- "Dickson Greeting" images (6 images)
- Images of The Black Maria (5 images)
- Newspaper Article (5 images)
- Edison's Congratulations (2 images)
- "Edison Kinetoscopic Record of a Sneeze" Copyright Registration (3 images)
- Composite "Edison Kinetoscopic Record of a Sneeze" Image (1 image)
- "Sandow" Copyright Entry (3 images)
- "Carmencita" Copyright Entry (3 images)
- Photo of Annabelle (1 image)
- Hornbacker-Murphy Fight (1894) (0:18)
- "Corbett and Courtney" Photographs (4 images)
- Mutoscope version of "Annabelle Serpentine Dance" (June-July 1896) (0:26)
- "Execution of Mary, Queen of Scots" Edison Sales Sheet (3 images)
- Edison Press Material (6 images)
- "Dewars Scotch Whisky" (1897) (0:25)
- "School is Out (ca. 1896-1897) (0:23)
- Excerpt of "Jack the Kisser" (1907) (2:45)
- "Hippodrome Races, Dreamland, Coney Island" (1905) (4:09)
- "Black Diamond Express" Photograph (1 image)
- "Uncle Tom's Cabin" Promotional Materials (2 images)
- "Great Train Robbery" Promotional Materials (3 images)

Disc 2
- Political Cartoon (5 images)
- "Whole Dam Family" Postcard (4 images)
- "Miller's Daughter" Edison Catalog Entry (10 images)
- "Train Wreckers" Edison Catalog Entry (8 images)
- "Life of an American Policeman" Edison Catalog Entry (10 images)
- "Dream of a Rarebit Fiend" Edison Catalog Entry (10 images)
- Winsor McCay Comic (5 images)
- Political Cartoon (2 images)

Disc 3
- Postcard (3 images)
- Comic (7 images)
- Postcard (1 image)
- "House of Cards" Script Material (7 images)
- "How Bumptios Papered the Parlor" Kinetogram (4 images)
- "How Bumptious Papered the Parlor" Script Material (3 images)
- Promotional Image of Edison's Home Projecting Kinetoscope (2 images)
- "Thirty Days at Hard Labor" Kinetogram (4 images)
- "Passer-By" Kinetogram (7 images)
- "Passer-By" Script Material (4 images)
- "Public and Private Care of Infants" Kinetogram (3 images)

Disc 4
- "At Bear Track Gulch" Kinetogram (3 images)
- "Ambassador's Daughter" Kinetogram (4 images)
- "Ambassador's Daughter" Script Material (6 images)
- "Serenade by Proxy" Kinetogram (3 images)
- "Serenade by Proxy" Script Material (3 images)
- "All on Account of a Transfer" Script Material (4 images)
- "One Touch of Nature" Kinetogram (4 images)
- "Adventure of the Hasty Elopement" Kinetogram (3 images)
- "Adventure of the Hasty Elopement" Script Material (10 images)
- "Wonders of Magnetism" Kinetogram (3 images)
- "Black Eyes" Kinetogram (4 images)
- "Black Eyes" Script Material (6 images)
- "Lone Game" Kinetogram (4 images)
- "Lone Game" Script Material (3 images)