Citizen Kane UPDATED

[Brent_Reid]

BDs/DVD on Caps: https://caps-a-holic.com/c_list.php?c=1556

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Updated

[Brent_Reid]

Ta! Just noticed some corrections.

Though it's actually identical, the spec for the US Warner 70th Anniversary BD differs from the other two US Warners listed.

New York Times broken link in DVD footnote: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/09/movi ... films.html

RKO 281 (1999) should have its own comparison page. Though in the US it was a TV movie, internationally it was theatrically released. Plus it has at least 10 different, individually released DVDs. If and when others are added, where will they go?

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Though it's actually identical, the spec for the US Warner 70th Anniversary BD differs from the other two US Warners listed.

Fixed

New York Times broken link in DVD footnote

Works find on my end.

RKO 281 (1999) should have its own comparison page. Though in the US it was a TV movie, internationally it was theatrically released. Plus it has at least 10 different, individually released DVDs. If and when others are added, where will they go?

If you can give us specs we can add it.

[Brent_Reid]

THe link works but is useless as a referemce. The link I provided goes directly to the article the quote is drawn from.

I'll dig out my copy asap - don't close this thread!

The Battle for Citizen Kane doc already has its own comparison, so now would be a good time to link it to the copies on the CK BD and DVD pages.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=2909

Went ahead and made a page ↑
If you have another DVD or others to add, let us know here.

[Brent_Reid]

Cheers James. I've only got the HBO DVD, as part of the US 70th Anniversary BD set.

Re CK, the Manga Films DVD is a bootleg. The Spanish have issued five different boot DVDs, so Warner haven't bothered releasing it there.
The UK "Single Disc - Remastered" DVD has a listed runtime of 114:21, but it's actually the same disc as the "Special Edition" (114:16). Perhaps 114:21 actually applies to the original vanilla UK DVD?

You don't want to link The Battle for Citizen Kane page?

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Ugh! Linking! This is why my reviews get delayed...!

And now updated

[Brent_Reid]

James, there is a special place in geek heaven reserved just for you... whether you want it or not!

Forgot to mention: the "American Experience:" prefix on the Battle... comparison should be removed. It's simply the title of a short-lived season of documentaries that included Battle's original US broadcast. Its full, correct title is simply "The Battle Over Citizen Kane".

I notice you haven't linked the Battle... disc of the "South Korea - Lee’s Vision" CK DVD, nor the copy on the "Germany - Kinowelt" BD. Neither is in the separate comparison either, but surely there's enough spec on each for them to be added?

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Updated the title, but keeping "American Experience".

The Korean DVD, seems like a bootleg of the Warner but most likely in the grey zone with copyright in the country, similar to Japan. As for the second disc not having Korean options, it does seem oddbut might add it later. As for Germany, don't have specs for a German DVD of it.

[Brent_Reid]

Japan became a signatory to the Berne Convention on copyright in 1972, the year after it was first ratified. South Korea signed up in 1996. There are no copyright grey areas in those countries: exactly the same laws apply as in Europe, the US and most of the RotW. Of course, that doesn't mean boots can't still occur there as anywhere.

Without bothering to ask my contact at Warner, my feeling is the Korean CK DVDs are legit. Checking the sleeves for appropriate logos and copyright clauses would be a good indicator.

Don't forget that linking! Seriously though, it is very useful. I've actually bought a couple of stand-alone DVD items before, without realising they were also included on later-issued BDs. I might have avoided it, had they been flagged up more clearly here at the time.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

Without bothering to ask my contact at Warner, my feeling is the Korean CK DVDs are legit. Checking the sleeves for appropriate logos and copyright clauses would be a good indicator.

If you have a contact that could confirm it with that would be helpful. I find it hard to believe Warner and HBO would lend them out to a South Korean company like that.

Don't forget that linking!

Linking what? Be more specific because I have a lot of things on my plate.

[Brent_Reid]

Here you go, from this thread (third paragraph), referring to this release and this one.

There's no particular reason to doubt the authenticity of the Lee's Vision DVD; I've checked several of theirs and can see nothing untoward. The country is a major market and as I said, a signatory to the Berne Convention, a prerequisite for any major licensor. The main point of countries signing is to improve their economies by attracting trade with international companies like Warner.

Nonetheless, I pester my contact every so often with a list of suspect labels and titles, so I've added it! Will get back to you, but may be a little while.

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

The German one is not on DVD so will not link that.

For the South Korean release, we'd need specs for the other two discs. "Battle Over Citizen Kane" lists audio and sub, but no info on aspect ratio or runtime. I assume it's a copy of the US release but would rather have full specs

[Brent_Reid]

Fair enough. I thought that might be the case, but as you didn't say anything it seemed you'd overlooked them. Is it not worth adding a footnote saying TBOCK is also an extra on the German BD?

[James-Masaki_Ryan]

That’s a reason the Australian DVD has no link. No specs for the bonus discs. Don’t think it’s worth noting about the German BD on the DVD page.

[Brent_Reid]

Ah, thank you. Am still figuring the nuances of DVDC policy - should save time in the future. Thanks again for all the other stuff.